陈牧：今蜀王剑指关中，寡人欲大发兵以讨之，可乎？先生以为如何？</p>
萧凡：臣以为，关中不足加大兵耳。大王出自西州，少为将帅，闲习军事。蜀王膏粱子弟，生处京师，坐不窥堂，并无军旅之才，临锋决敌，非大王之俦也。且其御下不严，尊卑无序，若恃众怙力，将各棋峙以观成败，不肯同心共胆，与其进退也。且蜀地承平日久，民不习战；关陇顷遭羌寇，士民皆能挟弓而斗，天下所畏也，而大王拥之以为爪牙，譬犹驱虎兕以赴犬羊，鼓烈风以扫枯叶，谁敢御之！无事征兵以惊天下，使患役之民相聚为非，弃德恃众，自亏威重也，且征西将军田征，指划分明，已拒陈仓，差可御敌，且蜀王非诸葛武侯之匹也，无能为也。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：nowthekgofshuvadedguanzhong，iwanttosendtroopstofighthi，sir，whatdoyouthk？</p>
xiaofan：idon‘tthkyouneedtosendtooanytroops，youwerebornguanzhongandlivedthearysceyouwereachild，thekgofshuwasbornthecapitandlivedaxuriolife，hehadnoilitaryprowesractualbatexperience，hedoesn‘tdeservetobeyouropponent，oreover，thepeaceoftheshukgdowastoolongtobefailiarwithwar，thereareanywarsguanzhongthatthepeoplecanparticipatethefightg，withtheasyourbackg，youarevcible，ifthereisnor-scalewar，youwillrecruitarnuberofldiers，dogwillakethepeopleafraidanddaayourpresti，besides，neraltianzhenghadalreadydrawnupabattlepn，hehadreachedchencangandstrengtheneditsdefensiveforces，thekgofshudidnothavetheabilityofzhuliang，heuldno。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyourteachgs。</p>
陈牧：今西城宗贼甚盛，各拥众不附，若楚王因之，祸必至矣。寡人欲征兵，恐不能集，先生何以教我？</p>
萧凡：臣以为，众不附者，仁不足也；附而不治者，义不足也。苟仁义之道行，百姓归之如水之趣下，何患征兵之不集乎？其宗贼多贪暴，骄而无谋，为下所患，若使人示之以利，必以众来。大王诛其无道，抚而用之，一州之人有乐存之心，闻大王威德，必襁负而至矣。兵集众附，南据上庸，北守安阳，西城可传檄而定。楚王虽至，无能为也。</p>
陈牧：先生之言甚善，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：today，therebelsthexichengarestrong，andtheydibeyyanant，ifthekgofchutooktheopportunitytotervene，theniillbeagast，iwantedtorecruitldiersfrothere，andiwasafraidiouldn‘tgowell，sirtaughtwhattodo？</p>
xiaofan：ithk，thereanwhytheydon‘tsubittoyouisthatyourbenevolenceandrighteonesshavenotdoneenough，ifyoudowellenoughthenthepeoplewillbewillgtosubittoyou，andrecruitgldierswillgoverysoothly，therebelsareostlygreedy，arrogantandoftenbullytheweak，ifyougivethefavorsthentheywillturntoyou，thenyoukillthenuberonewhodoesevindappeasetheothers，everyoneherewilppreciateandweleyou，thenyoutaketheopportunitytooupyshangyongtheuthandanyangthenorth，thenthexichengwilleunderyourntrol，evenifthekgofchuarrived，hewouldnotbeabletochanthestato。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyourteachgs。</p>
陈牧：寡人喜谏言，恒恐上不称天心，下为百姓所怨，常内自省也，然大臣不谏者，何也？先生教我。</p>
萧凡：臣以为，此乃大王威严所至耳，但思正人匡谏，欲令耳目外通，下无怨滞，所以每有谏者，纵不合王心，亦当含容，若即嗔责，人怀战惧，谁肯更言。</p>
陈牧：先生之言是也，寡人谨受教。</p>
chenu：ilikeihenpeoplegiveadvice，iaafraidthatgodandthepeoplewillp，therefore，ioftenreacttoyself，butveryfewpeoplehavebeengivgadvicetely，sirtaughtwhy？</p>
xiaofan：ithkthereanisthatyou‘retakgittooserioly，othersareafraidtoakesugstions，ifyouwantoogiveyouadvice，thegoalistokeeptherationflogandfreefropeoplepg，thenyouhavetobetolerantofpeoplewhogiveyouadvice，eveniftheyspeakabadtone，otherwise，theywillbeafraidtospeakoutoffear。</p>
chenu：sirisright，irespectfullyaeptyourteachgs。</p>
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